12:05 am
cybernan
hi rose
12:05 am
grannyrose
heyya nan
12:08 am
grannyrose
* waving * hi ursh
12:11 am
grannyrose
spinach IS NOT THERE!!!!
12:17 am
licketySplitAUS
Clues are up
12:17 am
grannyrose
thanx lickety
12:27 am
cybernan
nbt, but no idea on the 10 and no 7's yet -- not liking this one much
12:28 am
grannyrose
nan, sp 7
12:34 am
sprite
morning babblers
12:35 am
grannyrose
* hugs * sprite. How are you doing? is Rob any better?
12:36 am
sprite
hi sweetie, I am okay, moving through having to do too much in a gentle way where possible. Rob's foot is more or less the same.
12:37 am
grannyrose
taking care of you is taking care of Rob. well done Sprite.
12:38 am
sprite
I cleaned the toilet yesterday and removed Nero's doodoo from the garden. Will get the groceries today and clean the kitchen. Tomorrow I have to work a shift and I don't want to have to do much else. Rob makes onion soup for Sunday.
12:39 am
grannyrose
nice and slow, and steady. you have done well.
12:40 am
sprite
yeah, combined with having to do all Nero's walks by myself it requires careful handling. But I am handling it :D How are you today?
12:40 am
cybernan
thanks for the 7's -- good night everyone
12:41 am
grannyrose
doing so well i have to keep reminding myself to take little steps. sleeping well at last.
12:41 am
grannyrose
sweet dreams nan
12:41 am
sprite
ah wonderful! Yes, keep taking care, you are not a spring chicken anymore. But great news.
12:42 am
grannyrose
* giggle * no, i'm an autumn chicken...
12:42 am
sprite
same as me. Still, autumn is my favorite season so... yeah.
12:43 am
grannyrose
it's sort of difficult to remember when i feel so good.
12:44 am
sprite
I know. But very important in order to keep feeling good.
12:45 am
sprite
am so happy I did all the floor work yesterday. Kitchen is all standing up, and groceries... ah well, that part I will skip over in my mind but at least that only requires walking a lot and lifting. Not kneeling or bending over.
12:47 am
sprite
the grid is close to a gerund grid. Might have a big one soon, if that continues
12:48 am
grannyrose
just remember slow and steady. prioritise what has to be done first. like cold stuff into frig/freezer. then sit and rest for five, then another few things that are going in the same direction, then rest again. like me you think you can do it all at on4. which you know is not a good idea.
12:49 am
sprite
welllllll that would indicate there is a place to sit in the store. There is not. Still, the slow and steady part I can and will do. I write out the shopping list in the shop order, that helps.
12:50 am
grannyrose
hmmm. i misunderstood. i thought you could just ring your order through and they would home deliver.
12:51 am
sprite
yeah that was my hope, but the order slots are full already. I have to go to the store, alas.
12:53 am
sprite
I thought that the kids would bring their own booze and that Tim and Lisa would organise the breads and cheeses etc. Caya and Juno bring dessert, but Tim and Lisa are helping a friend move on saturday and yesterday asked if I could do the shopping for them... too late to get a saturday delivery.
12:54 am
grannyrose
and of course you said of course i can.
12:54 am
sprite
ummmmm yeah LOL
12:56 am
grannyrose
honey, it is okay to say no, even to your own kids. did you explain about Rob? and how you are trying to it all? sometimes it is better for them to realise mum and dad aren't always 100% able to help.
12:58 am
grannyrose
i think when they do eventually find out just how hard it is for you, you will be surprised at how much they will want to step up and help. i know when i finally told my Simon, he said, shit mum! why didn't you tell me earlier?
12:58 am
sprite
yeah I hear you. But they already know about Rob and everything and Tim is usually the first to ease our burden, so that he asked is a sign. So yeah, I said yes.
12:59 am
grannyrose
you're a wonderful mum sprite. i guess you are right. Tim wouldn't have asked if he didn't have to do so.
1:01 am
sprite
I try, grin.
1:02 am
sprite
bbl, nature is calling
1:53 am
grannyrose
welcome back honey.
1:53 am
sprite
am in need of a hug
1:54 am
grannyrose
on it's way darling. did something awful just happen?
1:55 am
sprite
yeah, my bowels translate the pain and overtaxing stress into fear of dying. Or rather, the ptsd does and my bowels follow. Grrrrrrrrrrr
1:57 am
grannyrose
oh sweetie. how awful for you. * sending more cyber hugs * and an extra, to tuck in your pocket for later.
1:59 am
sprite
thanks honey, really needed that. I threw out my panties. Couldn't be bothered. I mean, it is horrible enough in itself, right? But the logistics to get everything clean again. Mindboggling.
1:59 am
grannyrose
so when are you thinking of going out for the groceries now? will it be a while before it is safe for you to go out?
2:00 am
sprite
yeah this messed up my planning too. I need to rest first, then go out for groceries as soon as possible.
2:02 am
grannyrose
would imodium help settle you?
2:02 am
sprite
no, that doesn't do anything. It is a fear response from the body. Or the brain. Or whatever. Okay, drama over, there are worse things in the world.
2:04 am
grannyrose
perhaps a tepid temperature drink while you rest?
2:04 am
sprite
yeah, have to drink plenty. The good girl stuff, no sangria. Life is so unfair, isn't it :D
2:07 am
grannyrose
wracking what's left of my brain tissue for some helpful advice. something with honey in it. even warm water and honey would help slow the peristalsis.
2:08 am
sprite
right now all is empty, no worries.
2:09 am
grannyrose
but you can still feel the gurgling? warm heat pack?
2:10 am
sprite
what I need right now is sit still with my bestie and pretend all is normal. *grin*
2:12 am
grannyrose
* sits down quietly beside Sprite * i am with you sweetheart.
2:12 am
sprite
*snuggles up* see, all is well in my world
2:13 am
grannyrose
we'll just sit this one out, okay? watch the world pass us by.
2:13 am
sprite
you got it. Feet up, no worries
2:14 am
sprite
oh my, found the 10!
2:14 am
grannyrose
what can we see through the window honey? tell me what it looks like please
2:15 am
grannyrose
whoa ! well done you.
2:15 am
sprite
I see the picnic table, the parasol and half the garden in sunlight.
2:17 am
grannyrose
ahhh, sunlight. lovely warm sunshine. and the picnic table. dry cracker for you??
2:18 am
sprite
no eaties please. Just drinkies.
2:18 am
grannyrose
*giggling* sticking to your palate. yeah, not good idea.
2:19 am
grannyrose
over here i would be giving you some sort of electrolyte drink.
2:19 am
sprite
those are nasty.
2:20 am
Kamanjah
I'm sorry you're having issues, Sprite. I hate when things like that happen.
Hi Rose, it's good to hear you are feeling so well!
2:20 am
grannyrose
i have gastrolyte dissolving tablets. just sip a little at a time. the lemon ones aren't too bad.
2:21 am
sprite
hiya Kam :) *hugs*
2:21 am
grannyrose
* hugs * kam!! hi honey.
2:21 am
Kamanjah
I usually get here just as you finish the grid, Sprite. I've missed chatting with you two!
2:22 am
sprite
great to have you with us now, Kam
2:23 am
Kamanjah
Thanks! I need to start physical therapy for my hips and back, but I haven't called back yet to make the appt. I'm always so tired that the thought of PT on top of trying to take care of daily living is difficult.
2:24 am
grannyrose
nice to see you kam.
2:25 am
sprite
that is such a nasty catch22. You need it and when it works, it will give you more energy. But you don't have the energy because of all the pain etc so you don't get it started.
2:25 am
grannyrose
it is tiring just thinking about it Kam. i know how hard it is to motivate oneself to do it.
2:25 am
Kamanjah
It's a catch 22!
2:27 am
Kamanjah
I know I have to do it, but the pain has been really bad since my last cut in meds. I want my old dose back so badly! Next time I see doc, I'm going to ask since all of these other things have gone awry.
2:28 am
sprite
good pain management is essential if you are to keep up with everything else. I wish more doctors realised that.
2:30 am
grannyrose
not in the USA sprite. all the docs are so touchy about addiction, and even if your doc prescribes appropriate pain meds, then the chemist/pharmicist can still refuse to fill the prescription.
2:31 am
sprite
wow. The docs here are very aware of addiction too and may not prescribe. But once they do, the pharmacy has to give it.
2:31 am
Kamanjah
Me too. The "war on drugs" here has put so many chronic pain patients in a bad place. I'm spending way too much time in bed lately.
Depression set in after my dog died. I think I should be over that by now, but I'm not. I love gardening, but haven't even been doing much of that lately because it hurts so much to bend over.
2:31 am
grannyrose
the hoops poor Kam has to jump through to get her pain meds are incredible.
2:31 am
Kamanjah
The docs are afraid of the stupid government.
2:32 am
sprite
very nasty. And no honey, you don't 'need' to be over mourning at all. Not your beloved husband and not your beloved dog. Mourn and take your time.
2:32 am
Kamanjah
I'm on half the dose I was on 7 years ago. I've gained 35 lbs and am not nearly as active as I was.
2:32 am
grannyrose
Kam, darling, there is no limits on grief. just take each day as you can. little steps honey. no high bars to jump, okay?
2:34 am
sprite
being in constant heavy pain is killing for your health. I totally get it that they finally realised that some painkillers are very addictive. But they should also realise that for some patients they are simply necessary.
2:34 am
Kamanjah
I know there are no limits on grief. I do what I can - which is usually what HAS to be done that day. I have a tendency to procrastinate.
2:35 am
Kamanjah
You are correct, Sprite. The pain is sucking the life out of me.
2:35 am
sprite
procrastinating and feeling depressed go hand in hand. It is normal to push things forward when you feel sad and down and in pain and tired. And at the same time, the weight of what still needs to be done is sapping your energy. It is hard to find the balance.
2:39 am
grannyrose
and don't i know it sprite. every chronic pain patient knows about that sort of depression. and the procrastination is not new either Kam. please don't beat yourself up about it. take your time, do what you can, and when night comes look back at your day, and tell yourself how proud you are for getting even one thing done.
2:39 am
grannyrose
WTG SPRITE !!
2:39 am
Kamanjah
True. I need to get my life in a better balance. Maybe the PT will help. I'm just afraid I'll wake up and not feel like driving. I needed to go to town today, but didn't feel like driving, so I have to go tomorrow. I'm out of a lot of stuff!
2:40 am
sprite
it is really tough to work through all that, honey. I know. Rose knows. We hold you in our thoughts and prayers and I am sending you energy. *hugs* to you both. *poof*
2:40 am
grannyrose
take a step back Kam. quietly look at what has to be done. try not to do too many things on one day. that was my downfall.
2:41 am
grannyrose
* hugs * sprite
2:42 am
Kamanjah
Rose, if I overdo it one day, I'm down for at least the next two. That's one reason I've slowed down. I need to be functional at least 1/2 the time!
2:42 am
Kamanjah
'grats on finishing, Sprite!
2:44 am
grannyrose
exactly Kam. it's so hard when you look at all that has to be done. i have learned to look at all my chores, and think through how i can do them sitting down. i have stools and chairs all over the house.
2:46 am
Kamanjah
Good idea! There are a couple of tall stools in Michael's shop. I think I'll steal them for the laundry and kitchen. At least I've been cooking from scratch a lot more lately. I could do all the chopping and prep on a stool! I never even thought of that!
2:49 am
grannyrose
there you are! i even sit down when sorting through the dirty laundry. i have all my sprays etc in a bowl on top of my machine, i have several baskets/buckets which i sort into. so much easier than trying to do it standing. your brain can only handle so much pain messages then it goes into shutdown.
2:51 am
grannyrose
and how about a waterproof chair/stool for the shower? so much easier to sit and let the lovely warm water flow over you.
2:52 am
Kamanjah
I have one. It's a big help when I need it, but I hate washing my hair using the hand-held shower nozzle. My hair is nearly to my waist.
2:54 am
grannyrose
try sitting with your back to the shower head instead of facing it. bring your hair forward to shampoo, then flip it back and let the shower rinse it.
2:56 am
grannyrose
the other plus to doing it that way is that you have a constant stream of warm water running over your sore muscles.
2:56 am
Kamanjah
I do sit with my back to the shower. The hair is just a pain. I don't want to cut it because it is so curly that I would have to fix it all the time, and I do not have the energy for that! We have water pressure limitations for shower flow here. I tried to get a new showerhead with more pressure, but they aren't for sale here.
2:57 am
Kamanjah
I thought it was crazy here before the current crisis. Now, ugh!
2:59 am
grannyrose
i don't envy you your position at all. my fellow australians have just voted a Labor government back in for the next 3 years. such morons! i have lived under Labor governments before and it's no picnic.
3:02 am
Kamanjah
I keep wanting to enter the Star Trek bad guys, lol!
3:02 am
grannyrose
but noooo. the millenials think they know it all. * sigh * really thinking deeply about moving to europe, near Sprite. wanna come?? we can dream about it together.
3:07 am
Kamanjah
I've been in my little house for 25 years. I really should be out of the country, but I do love my space.
I haven't gotten my "Real ID" yet, so I can't even get on a plane. I think I have the necessary paperwork, but they will likely want more, which will be hard to chase down. What annoys me the most about this "Real ID" thing is that they already have seen all the documents for my last name changes. But I have to prove it all over again. They passed a stupid law that won't let women register to vote if their ID doesn't match their birth certificate! I don't know how that will pan out since it just passed.
3:10 am
grannyrose
that's so stupid. set your country back a few hundred years, that's for sure.
3:14 am
Kamanjah
It has been wonderful chatting with you! I need to think about getting ready for bed now.
Take care! *Hugs*
3:15 am
grannyrose
Kam, honey, need to go. nearly dinner time here. it's been lovely to see you and catch up. i am so sorry to see what you are going through. * hugs *
4:36 am
Q
the "save" act (the voting act mentioned earlier) hasn't yet passed- it passed the house, but still needs to be heard in the senate. we'll see. :-/
5:09 am
MollyL
And it would be smart for any woman wanting to register to vote who doesn't have the proper paperwork under the new rules to go do it now, before the act passes.
6:12 am
Jayk
Kam--are you still on?
8:42 am
Christa
Good Morning to all
8:50 am
hurshy
morning christa, all
9:04 am
MollyL
The Pope is on social media. There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with that.
9:05 am
hurshy
less fundamentally wrong than a lot of things popes have done in the past...
9:06 am
hurshy
phantom: niacin
9:06 am
hokie carla
howdy folks, finding some of these tiles difficult
9:06 am
hurshy
hiya hokie, i'm on the second row
9:07 am
hokie carla
me too but kinda jumping around now
9:07 am
hokie carla
only have 2 i's on top row
9:08 am
hokie carla
all in?
9:08 am
hurshy
no, one is is6
9:09 am
hurshy
i hate non- ... like, every dog other than a co5 is a nonco5, you just don't know what to try cause the things that work may not be any more sensible than that!
9:09 am
hokie carla
agree
9:10 am
hurshy
i think it's worse than re!
9:11 am
hurshy
the thing about the new pope that i never thought about before - family members - i saw an article about his older brother. and i was like wow that must be weird, "my little brother is the Pope"
9:12 am
hurshy
phantom: cities
9:13 am
hokie carla
I have a lot of similar phantoms
9:15 am
ChampFit
Hola! I feel very stupid looking at the B. Do I not know many B words?
9:15 am
hokie carla
yeah, I only found 10 so far
9:15 am
hurshy
oh i haven't gotten to the B yet, wrestling with the C
9:16 am
ChampFit
Well that too, but C's are often a pain so at least I expect that.
9:17 am
hurshy
ooh just found an odd pair co5/16 and pl
9:18 am
hurshy
but all these vowels and we don't even have ciao
9:18 am
ChampFit
well allrighty then! there's also a dog
9:20 am
hurshy
name that proper noun! actor Bernsen
9:22 am
penquis
Corbin....add a letter for another word...change the last word of that guy for anothe word... ;o)
9:22 am
hurshy
ding ding ding!!!
9:22 am
penquis
and plural one for an 8....
9:22 am
hurshy
the last word of that guy?
9:23 am
penquis
too much gratuitous clueing...sorry about that...
9:23 am
hurshy
well i got the 7 and 8 but not sure about the other change
9:23 am
hurshy
but thanks for those ones!!
9:23 am
penquis
change the last letter of the first name...
9:24 am
hurshy
aha, thanks! that's Cs Conquered!
9:24 am
ChampFit
Thank you pen!
9:24 am
hurshy
third row grey!
9:26 am
hokie carla
wow, I step away for 10 min
9:26 am
hurshy
name that proper noun! crazy renaissance italian family
9:27 am
hurshy
ding ding ding!!!
9:27 am
ChampFit
jump back in, we're full of clues! ;)
9:27 am
penquis
sorry, got carried away... ;o)
9:27 am
hokie carla
well, I already had that c pair
9:27 am
ChampFit
Appreciated it pen...no problem here!
9:28 am
hurshy
well i see what you mean about the B
9:28 am
hokie carla
had the co5/6 pair. did not have the 7/8 set, thanks, pen!
9:30 am
penquis
gotta go....leaving 41 for later...bye all....
9:30 am
hokie carla
bye pen!
9:35 am
hokie carla
just found an adorable dog
9:35 am
ChampFit
Someone in my neighborhood has 2 of them. So cute!
9:35 am
hurshy
but hokie you agreed with my non co5 thing, you didn't get it then?
9:36 am
hokie carla
they are. they have a smile very much like a golden retriever, then their tiny little legs.
9:36 am
hokie carla
I was just agreeing with the non statement in general. Didn't know what you were referencing specifically. I tried noncat before you got here.
9:38 am
hokie carla
this bottom E is a real mystery to me
9:38 am
ChampFit
yes...I only have 1 from that one.
9:38 am
hokie carla
I don't see any. but phantom eonian.
9:39 am
hokie carla
oh, the two directions gets me once again
9:40 am
ChampFit
Just got the other 2...en6/21 and pl
9:40 am
ChampFit
phantom: niacin
9:40 am
hokie carla
thanks for those e's
9:41 am
hurshy
name that proper noun! nickname for the 80s soviet leader
9:42 am
periwinkle
hi all. has anyone found the ge10?
9:42 am
hurshy
i didn't even know it WAS a ge! :D
9:42 am
periwinkle
I peeked at the list
9:43 am
periwinkle
ge 10/105
9:43 am
hurshy
maybe geo- something?
9:43 am
periwinkle
I am tryiing that but no luck yet
9:43 am
hokie carla
I could only find gr5, so I guess I should look for geo words
9:44 am
hokie carla
or geno-something
9:44 am
hurshy
i also have gi4 and go4
9:45 am
ChampFit
plural it carla
9:45 am
hokie carla
LOL, champ. I just talked about that problem!
9:45 am
hokie carla
oh, BBL
9:45 am
ChampFit
I know! It's so annoying...totally get it.
9:46 am
MollyL
ge10 is a prefix plus the _______al gardens an indoor place where tropical plants can grow
9:46 am
hurshy
so i guess that'd be the opposite of exobo7
9:46 am
periwinkle
tyty Molly
9:47 am
hurshy
12 left, half of them Bs
9:48 am
MollyL
There is no such word as exobo7
9:48 am
hurshy
well there is now that i made it
9:48 am
ChampFit
excellent word hursh
9:49 am
hurshy
i mean in star trek they definitely use words LIKE that, exobiology, so...
9:49 am
ChampFit
Sure. So it's real. Clearly!
9:51 am
hurshy
what i really find weird is that ae6 counts but eo5 doesn't
9:54 am
hokie carla
oh, I tried eo5 twice, but not ae
9:55 am
hokie carla
classic enable
9:55 am
hokie carla
did not have that b, so thanks for the twofer
9:57 am
hokie carla
hurshy, can you clue the is6? I see from the flip there's an is8 so I wonder if they're related. I can't think of any is6 babblets.
9:58 am
hurshy
yes, related. i plus very smooth fabric, adj for the 8
9:58 am
hokie carla
oh yeah, now I remember it
9:58 am
ChampFit
ty hursh!
9:59 am
ChampFit
crap...sorry
10:12 am
cybernan
good morning everyone :)
10:15 am
hokie carla
hey nan
10:18 am
hokie carla
well, I have HOET but 36 left. will come back later.
10:19 am
hokie carla
6-13-13-4 ... okay, not liking those 6s. maybe I will leave these in the bucket.
10:32 am
cybernan
nbt/nbs - ty for the 10
10:39 am
Atalante
bonjour tout le monde
10:40 am
cybernan
Salut, Atalante - ca va?
10:42 am
Atalante
le soleil brille, le chien n'est couvert de rien de disgustingness. tout bien
10:42 am
Atalante
you see the priorities :D
10:49 am
cybernan
lol - ici c'est 75F aujourd'hui et le chat dort a mes pieds
10:50 am
cybernan
and that is about the extent of my french!
10:50 am
cybernan
but good to practice now and then
10:51 am
Atalante
:D I wish the cat was sleeping on my feet!
10:52 am
Atalante
but very similar temperature here
10:54 am
Atalante
really? psionic isn't a word? interesting
10:56 am
cybernan
no the word is psonia - meaning your full of it :)
10:57 am
cybernan
*you're
11:03 am
cybernan
doesn't look like I'm going to get very far with this one - off for breakfast now.
11:03 am
Atalante
its tricky
11:48 am
bichon
Awful rainy day here in CT
12:32 pm
ch1212
bichon, I just remembered part of a dream I had last night. My husband told me he was taking me to an island with a beach, and I immediately envisioned a tropical paradise. Then he told me "It's in Connecticut," and I was like, WHAT?! IT'S COLD THERE!
That's all I can recall. Having never been to your state, I don't know if maybe there is a large lake with an island?
12:52 pm
EvaNadine
afternoon Babblers!
2:11 pm
MollyL
There are no islands in Connecticut. That's kind of funny actually.
2:32 pm
mkg
Conn is definitely not a tropical place. And no islands. They do have a large man made lake: lake candlewood. I grew up swimming in that lake.
2:36 pm
MollyL
Oh no! There's a racial slur! Alert the racial slur police!
2:39 pm
mkg
Huh?? Racial slur? What did i say wrong?
2:40 pm
mkg
Raining in DC area too.
2:41 pm
mkg
Nice day to stay in.
2:41 pm
Shellbell_o-well
There are two islands in Lake Chaffee, Ashford, Conn. ;-)
2:42 pm
mkg
Ooooh never went there. Hmm. Will google it. Ty shellbell
2:42 pm
mkg
I am missing the o top left corner and the a bottom right corner. I welcome any help. Ty.
2:43 pm
mkg
Oops just got bottom corner word. So only top left remains. Help welcome. Ty
2:43 pm
mkg
Never mind. I got top corner. Sorry all.
2:47 pm
Shellbell_o-well
Just moved my 92yo m-in-law from there (a little lakefront house), to live w/us here in Oregon. I know she'll miss it. But it's not raining here in OR, today!
2:48 pm
mkg
Shellbell i bet she will love Oregon. My parents loved seattle and there are similarities between Connecticut and Oregon/wash state.
2:49 pm
mkg
Both places are nicer than here in the DC area.
2:50 pm
mkg
Off for a nap.
3:24 pm
MollyL
I honestly can't think of any similarities between Connecticut and those two places.
3:25 pm
MollyL
And here in the DC area is very nice.
3:49 pm
spellit
an5 nearly uneven that by
3:51 pm
spellit
an5 nearly the veg that brings tears
4:02 pm
crosshair
Good afternoon, Babblers. :)
4:37 pm
moolingwa
afternoon
6:58 pm
hokie carla
wow, just realized I said HOET earlier and only have 1 lower N.
6:59 pm
hokie carla
HOET!
11:28 pm
phaeton
any one have a clue for the ge10?
11:45 pm
hokie carla
ends in bo7