12:01 am
hokie carla
Saw the aurora here in SC. Staying up to go look again in a little while. Very exciting for us southerners
12:02 am
justafreep
That's amazing. I wish I coulda seen it.
12:04 am
hokie carla
It was so wild.
12:10 am
hokie carla
Wondering how there are 10 v
12:11 am
justafreep
I am wondering how there are 8 more than I've found
12:11 am
justafreep
okay. fine. 6 more.
12:13 am
hokie carla
I only found 2
12:14 am
penquis
hello all...
12:14 am
justafreep
howdy, pen
12:15 am
penquis
hi freep....
12:15 am
hokie carla
Pen!
12:15 am
hokie carla
I have phantom trauma
12:17 am
justafreep
you can get over it in my phantom tropic vacation
12:17 am
licketySplitAUS
Clues are up
12:17 am
penquis
my phantom is also a prince.... ;o)
12:17 am
justafreep
thanks, lickety
12:21 am
penquis
VI 7....
12:23 am
justafreep
thanks, pen
12:23 am
penquis
i hate grids like this...
12:24 am
hokie carla
To the phantom victor goes the phantom spoils
12:24 am
hokie carla
Me too pen
12:26 am
justafreep
vi7 x 2
12:26 am
penquis
oouuu...
12:27 am
hokie carla
Finally found one and now freep is saying there’s another
12:27 am
justafreep
there is. both are real words and everything
12:27 am
penquis
yup...and i was just starting to feel ok about my 7 V words...lol....
12:29 am
justafreep
Always glad to pump up the anxiety :-)
12:30 am
hokie carla
Phantom aalii. Yes, that is a word I know.
12:33 am
penquis
does anyone have stats for the i word?
12:34 am
hokie carla
Nope
12:35 am
hokie carla
Ah, thx
12:39 am
penquis
are there two?
12:39 am
lynxxx
don't know Pen
12:39 am
penquis
sorry, no glasses.... it's an I and not an L....
12:41 am
penquis
got it...ty, lyn....
12:42 am
hokie carla
Ooh top row gray. Can give a clue for i if you want. We’ve had it before
1:04 am
penquis
well i am stalled at 18....goodnight all....
1:08 am
penquis
ooouuu....found two Vs....done now....really.... ;o)
1:42 am
NonoNanette
clue please for the ou8?
1:54 am
sprite
to be more successful or impressive
2:33 am
phaeton
any help with the tr7?
3:25 am
Kamanjah
ah, paheton, just got it - three things to wear.
3:28 am
Kamanjah
Oh, I misread the time, hope this helps someone.
6:17 am
MollyL
Oh no, Hurshy will be sadsies
6:43 am
Bremen
I'm just not getting the ou8. Can someone clue it again, please?
6:49 am
Bremen
ah, got it. 'out' with ri5...
6:50 am
Bremen
or 'out' with your competition.
6:53 am
bichon
tyvm Bremen
7:12 am
Detour
Took 2 brains to get it in our household. Wish I'd seen your clue Bremen it would have saved time. Lol
7:20 am
bichon
al 5/10, second one pls
7:30 am
Bremen
where you say your vows
7:35 am
bichon
tyvm Bremen
7:59 am
dan2bit
morning all! can I have stats for the i ?
8:23 am
dan2bit
ty Molly will hunt
9:08 am
hurshy
phantom: vicarious
9:09 am
hurshy
*notes with satisfaction the etymological relationship between vicar and vicarious*
9:12 am
hurshy
woohoo, found the 8!
9:12 am
hokie carla
hmm, wondering what thing to wear I am missing that I need 3 of
9:13 am
hurshy
it's not so much a THING to wear as
9:13 am
ChampFit
not the thing, "wear".
9:13 am
BzznBea
think three and adorned
9:14 am
hurshy
the verb, i'm **** in a uniform today
9:14 am
hokie carla
I can only see trivial, which has nothing to do with that
9:15 am
hurshy
you're dressed in something, you're **** in it
9:15 am
bichon
ou 7/36, pls
9:15 am
hurshy
there is a show called Ou7er
9:15 am
hokie carla
ah, thanks
9:17 am
hokie carla
still 21 left and i hate this grid. so probably won't finish. can't even get HOET thanks to the V and C.
9:17 am
ChampFit
That V is a pain in the butt! Still need 2.
9:18 am
hurshy
you can get HOET, you just have to believe you can
9:18 am
hokie carla
I still need one of the vi7 that I was told was a regular word. but it was freep, so I take that with a grain of salt.
9:18 am
hurshy
it IS a regular word
9:18 am
ChampFit
The one I have is a regular word.
9:19 am
hokie carla
I have the one that precedes reality sometimes
9:19 am
hurshy
and there's also a guy called Sid Vi7
9:19 am
hokie carla
aha, thanks
9:19 am
ChampFit
ooooh...now I need 1 V
9:20 am
hurshy
WAS a guy, rather. he is not alive now, i see.
9:20 am
welki
ahhh, the elusive sid - thanks, hurshy
9:20 am
hokie carla
still have 5 v's left!
9:20 am
ChampFit
It was a 4...
9:20 am
hokie carla
finally found my nemesis c for HOET
9:21 am
hokie carla
I still hate it
9:22 am
hurshy
you can hate it, but the point is, you could get HOET
9:22 am
hokie carla
how can there be another N??
9:23 am
hurshy
na5/10 babblet
9:23 am
hokie carla
thanks
9:24 am
hurshy
i can't find a second F
9:24 am
hokie carla
phantom auto and virtuous
9:25 am
hokie carla
f4/13
9:26 am
hokie carla
which is what I do every day with this game
9:26 am
hurshy
the P is really hard too
9:26 am
hokie carla
need 4 P. but now just need 2 V.
9:27 am
ChampFit
There's a pr5/6 combo that has no definition and is very annoying.
9:27 am
hokie carla
just found that. dutch?
9:28 am
ChampFit
I got nothing.
9:28 am
hokie carla
missed a plural. now just need 1 P
9:29 am
hurshy
yeah google says it's a variant spelling of the baby carriage
9:29 am
bichon
ou 7/36, pls
9:29 am
hokie carla
hurshy clued it below. I think you watch that show/read the series. ou7er
9:29 am
hurshy
did you not see my clue, or did you see it but not get it?
9:30 am
ChampFit
FW! Last word was la 6/18.
9:30 am
hokie carla
ooh, my missing L. well done.
9:31 am
hurshy
thanks for that one champ, that was my missing L :)
9:31 am
hurshy
snap hokie
9:31 am
ChampFit
I was blind to it for some reason. Guess it was contagious! ;) Have a gread day all!
9:31 am
hokie carla
of course I still haven't seen it
9:32 am
bichon
of course I've seen it, ty
9:32 am
hurshy
any AA or AU or AF words?
9:32 am
hokie carla
not any that I've seen. still need one 2nd row A and one 3rd row A
9:33 am
hokie carla
finally found that L. no, I'm not catholic!
9:35 am
hurshy
it's kind of weird that anyone still is... but then i suppose if it's a big part of your heritage
9:35 am
hokie carla
just saying I don't think I've ever seen that word
9:36 am
hurshy
we have it not too infrequently here in babble
9:36 am
hokie carla
guess I just don't pay attention
9:37 am
hokie carla
do you have the R finished?
9:37 am
hurshy
no, still need one
9:37 am
hokie carla
why did I think rialta is a word?
9:38 am
hurshy
oh and it's here! lol
9:38 am
hokie carla
ah, that's my missing one
9:38 am
hokie carla
definitely could not see that
9:39 am
hokie carla
down to A T A VV CC P
2-5-1
9:40 am
hurshy
2-8-1 for me lol
9:44 am
hokie carla
well, I am quitting for now. peace out.
9:48 am
hurshy
ooh found a vi5/6 combo
9:48 am
hurshy
so that's 6s done
9:51 am
hurshy
top 2 rows grey!
10:11 am
bichon
pi 5/14, pls
10:34 am
aebmusica
Ou8……..clue please
10:36 am
BzznBea
better than the team you are playing ou8
10:38 am
MollyL
Wait, am I understanding chat? It's kind of weird that anyone is still Catholic?
10:41 am
aebmusica
If catholic still means universal and all - inclusive …… then yes
10:42 am
aebmusica
Tyvm Bzzn
10:44 am
MollyL
Well I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but
10:44 am
MollyL
i can see how those who are would find that offensive.
10:51 am
aebmusica
Why. …. It also means” free from provincial predjudices or attachments as in “catholic in one’s tastes” according to the dictionary…….
10:56 am
MollyL
Do you understand that Catholocism is a religion and way of faith that means a lot to some people?
10:58 am
aebmusica
Yes …….as I am one
11:00 am
MollyL
But you think it's weird that "anyone still is one"?
11:01 am
cybernan
good morning :)
11:03 am
aebmusica
In the ecumenical sense , no
11:17 am
cybernan
stats for the i please?
11:19 am
cybernan
no hope of finding that!
11:20 am
BzznBea
ends with most of Halloween saying first word
11:20 am
Gillie
This is where word-search sites come in handy. For instance, search for "ia----" on www.morewords.com, and you find that there are only 3 possibilities
11:21 am
cybernan
got it - ty - sounds like part of a word to me
11:23 am
Gillie
(just trying to teach a new trick to an old dog - but the old trick works just as well, I guess)
11:35 am
Christa
Good Morning
11:38 am
bichon
pi 5/14, pls
11:39 am
ch1212
Gillie, I've never used morewords before until just now, and it says I can only use A-Z and ? for blank tiles, but it only accepts 2 of the ? instead of 4. What am I missing?
11:40 am
MollyL
pi5/14 dutiful spirit of reverence for God
11:40 am
MollyL
pi5/14 dutiful spirit of reverence for God
11:41 am
MollyL
morewords...use - for blanks not ?
11:41 am
cybernan
down to 25 - back after breakfast
11:42 am
MollyL
aand use Chrome as a browser not Edge
11:42 am
ch1212
is there more than one 'morewords' site? The one I'm on restricts blank tiles to only a ?, with a limit of 2. So, I put in ia???? and it won't take it. I tried dashes, underscores, etc. and the same message pops up -- only letters A-Z and only a ? for a blank tile.
11:43 am
cybernan
what difference does chrome make?
11:44 am
bichon
I always use Chrome. Better service
11:46 am
cybernan
guess ssit is what one is used to -- started with whatever ms browser we had in the 80's and never switched
11:47 am
cybernan
stomach is growlig - ye
11:47 am
ch1212
Okay ... I just switched to chrome and tried that ... this time, it allowed me to use 4 of the ? but when I clicked enter, there were no results. I think maybe I'm on a different 'morewords' site than you all speak of. I'll research some more.
11:48 am
MollyL
morewords.com
11:49 am
ch1212
Thanks. I'll check that out.
11:50 am
MollyL
Oh God< Nan is still using Internet Exploder
11:51 am
MollyL
I have used Edge and it's total crap
11:55 am
hurshy
the reason i said that was just because the whole pedophilia scandal has been so huge and it's quite a turnoff
11:56 am
MollyL
That has nothing to do with people's faith in the religion
11:57 am
hurshy
it might make one question whether it's a church worth being associated with, that's all
11:57 am
hurshy
since there are other flavors of Christianity, one might think of switching to one of them
11:59 am
hurshy
but i really admire people who stick with it even when they are negatively affected by official Catholic teaching - like gay Catholics, for instance (and I don't mean celibate ones)
12:00 pm
MollyL
Oh, you would have to understand what Catolics believe to know how "switching flavors" wouldn't work
12:00 pm
hurshy
it shows they're not just Catholic out of habit/path of least resistance
12:01 pm
hurshy
well, molly, my impression is that the actual beliefs of individuals often differ markedly from the official beliefs and teachings. for instance most american catholics do not agree with the teaching against birth control.
12:03 pm
hurshy
so i would think that would make "switching flavors" more plausible in some cases perhaps than in others
12:03 pm
MollyL
Of course. And no Catholic I know endorses pedohilia. It is about the faith, not the deviations from the faith.
12:04 pm
hurshy
and actually, i personally have known a ton of ex-catholics who went evangelical, and now i know some who've gone UU
12:04 pm
hurshy
and probably the largest group is those who just become agnostic or atheist
12:06 pm
MollyL
Catholics leave the church all the time. I just questioned why it was necessary to question why some still retain their faith.
12:07 pm
hurshy
well, like i said, the pedophilia thing was huge. if it were one priest, i'd call that a deviation. but the breadth of it - plus then more came out about the raping of nuns, and forced abortions when they got pregnant - it's a really massive "deviation" that turns one's stomach
12:08 pm
MollyL
Awful things have been done in the name of Allah, but I would never say that I wonder why anyone is still Muslim.
12:09 pm
hurshy
ah but most muslims might not be living as much in a "cancel culture" environment
12:11 pm
ch1212
At one point in time, there was an argument that if the Church just lifted the celibate rule, there would be little or no pedaephilia going on. But of course, we know that there are just as many child molesters in the general population as are in specialized positions, i.e. pastors, priests, scoutmasters, teachers, etc. Statistically, the vast majority of known child molesters are men with wives/girlfriends.
12:11 pm
MollyL
I'm done. This conversation is pointless.
12:11 pm
hurshy
but i mean, if someone finds out that they know a person in real life who has pedophilic desires - even if they haven't acted on them at all - most people are so revolted that they want to have nothing more to do with that person (which i think is a mistake on behalf of society)
12:12 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Religion- let's not go there. Secrecy and isolation breed unspeakable acts in any family, religious group. We all grew up with particular mythologies that may be beneficent- or quite the opposite. Good things and evil things have been done in the name of religion.
12:12 pm
hurshy
that's all true too, ch1212
12:13 pm
Gillie
From a Guardian article about Lawrence Hecker, reviewing his trial testimony: "One of the more stunning exchanges in Hecker’s deposition saw him look over a list of 50 archdiocesan priests who were retired and still living. Most of the names were in blue – except 11, which were in red. Trahant established that the names of those in red were living, retired priests with abuse allegations that the archdiocese itself deemed credible.
“That would [mean] 22% of the retired, incardinated priests in the archdiocese of New Orleans have credible claims of sexual abuse against them,” Trahant said. “That’s a lot, isn’t it? That’s over one in five.” "
12:13 pm
hurshy
i guess it's just when it gets to the point where, when you mention an organization, for a significant amount of people, pedophilia is the first idea that springs to mind... well...
12:13 pm
ch1212
Molly, I understand the point you are making, which seems to question in a manner intended to shame, why someone would wonder about other people's beliefs and adherence to them. It's okay that we don't understand why people believe or think a certain way.
12:14 pm
Gillie
And 22% of living retired archdiocesan priests with credible abuse allegations against them is a *lot*.
12:14 pm
hurshy
i didn't actually mean people SHOULDN'T continue to be catholic, more that it surprises my instincts, that they do
12:15 pm
hurshy
just as it surprised me to learn that a caterpillar actually dissolves into liquid goo before turning into a butterfly
12:17 pm
hurshy
it makes me go, "whoa, weird" but not in a judgmental way, just, hey, i wouldn't have expected that
12:17 pm
hurshy
if that makes any sense...
12:18 pm
Gillie
More from the article: "In both his 1999 confession and a summer 2023 interview with WWL and the Guardian, Hecker attributed his serial molestation of children to the libertine attitudes of the 1960s and 1970s. But molesting children was as illegal back then as it is now, Trahant pointed out during the deposition.
Hecker then offered up an alternative explanation: he said the church taught him that priests could honor their promise of celibacy simply by ensuring they were never “alone with a woman in private”."
12:18 pm
ch1212
Gillie, there is some truth in that, I think. I attended seminary and have a multitude of monks and priests who are friends. The sheer number of ones who are gay (celibate or not) at first amazed me. Then I realized, if you are a person who wants to serve God but whose church doesn't allow you to act out sexually, then joining a ministry where celibacy is a rule, kind of makes sense.
12:19 pm
Kaplan the Magne
I would like to venture that a chat log for a word game is an inappropriate place to bring up this issue. It seems to be on a continuum of "why would anyone be Moslem given the events of 9/11, or why would anyone remain Jewish given whatever is attributed to us. Hursh, thou hast entered troubled waters. I understand your sentiment, but it's quite risky for a chat log.
12:19 pm
ch1212
In my forthcoming book, I have a section that talks about the history of child sexual abuse around the world, going back a couple thousand years.
12:19 pm
hurshy
wow, how do you manage to write that book without getting seriously depressed, ch1212?
12:21 pm
Kaplan the Magne
On another note, I bought a very nice mood ring in a local bookstore for about 5 dollars. Then I bought one for the other hand. Right now the one on my right hand is aqua and the one on my left hand is yellow. Why does my left hand not know what my right hand is feeling?
12:21 pm
hurshy
i think those things are temperature based, kap? and i know at night i often have one foot fine and one foot freezing cold
12:21 pm
ch1212
Kaplan, you make a good point. This is why I so wish I could go visit with Hurshy and Hazel and some of our other insightful babblers. It would be so much fun to just ... discuss.
Hurshy, I say this with great humor: It's easy when you suffer from depression in the first place. :D No, the book is about my journey through a very traumatic and abusive childhood, but along the way I examine current and historical perspectives into child abuse, the science of memory, etc.
12:22 pm
hurshy
would you say it's been cathartic to work on the book then?
12:24 pm
ch1212
Absolutely. I had never looked back over the entirety of 45+ years of healing, using various therapeutic modalities, the progress I've made, etc. So to see it all in my book felt humbling and gratifying. I hope it reaches the people who might benefit from it.
12:25 pm
ch1212
Lovely chatting, but Fed Ex is pulling up with packages! bbl.
12:30 pm
hurshy
anyway, sorry for my original not-really-thinking comment
12:51 pm
cybernan
hi agai
12:56 pm
cybernan
vi 7/48 please?
1:01 pm
cybernan
nm - found
1:01 pm
cybernan
hagd everyoe :)
1:02 pm
aebmusica
Clue cyber an, please
1:10 pm
aebmusica
Anyone with the vi7/48 clue? Please
1:15 pm
welki
aspiring to be ethical, ae
1:23 pm
hurshy
uhhhh i think you really misread that word welki
1:24 pm
hurshy
or you smushed the 7/44 and the 7/48 together in your head to make the word you are talking about
1:24 pm
hurshy
Sid Vi7 was a rocker
1:29 pm
aebmusica
I have all the other Vi’s but I still can’t get vi7/48…?…
1:32 pm
welki
you're 100% correct, hurshy. i really messed up!
vi7 - like a dog (or person) who attacks for no reason
1:32 pm
aebmusica
Nvm finally got it ……thanks all
1:43 pm
swmbo
rival outrival'
2:19 pm
scatterbrain
Clue for st7 pls
2:54 pm
scatterbrain
Sorry MOLLYL tr 7
3:30 pm
MollyL
tr7 prefix for 3 and a word for wearing clothes
4:32 pm
Foxy62
Yay, finally the Fireworks go off
5:54 pm
periwinkle
pi5 please. last word
6:05 pm
mkg
Hi all. Need a clue for a six. Ty
6:08 pm
mkg
Not getting the clothed word. Any further clue for that tr 7?
6:08 pm
mkg
Ooops got it. Sorry.
6:08 pm
mkg
Cant believe i have no sixes. Clues welcome
6:12 pm
mkg
Trying to get ia six but no luck.
6:17 pm
mkg
Any cluews for ia six? Ty
6:27 pm
penquis
still here, mkg?
6:37 pm
hokie carla
I'm back with still 8
6:37 pm
penquis
13 here...
6:39 pm
penquis
carla!...
6:42 pm
hokie carla
I don't expect to find any
6:42 pm
hokie carla
prob should list
6:42 pm
penquis
found one....
6:48 pm
penquis
down to 9....three are fours....
6:51 pm
hokie carla
watching soccer, so my listing is going slow. definitely should have found my T.
6:51 pm
penquis
8 here...
6:56 pm
penquis
the Ps have been very difficult today....
6:56 pm
penquis
oouuu....found an odd one....
6:57 pm
hokie carla
I just need 1 P5 but struggling with it
6:57 pm
penquis
double vowel in the middle....
6:58 pm
penquis
(same vowel)...
6:58 pm
hokie carla
duh, regular word
7:00 pm
penquis
well i am stuck at 6....one is a four....
7:02 pm
Shellbell_o-well
Hi y'all, stoppin' in for my last 10
7:03 pm
hokie carla
I had 2 4's left. both were regular words or babblets we have a lot
7:03 pm
penquis
hi shell....
7:03 pm
hokie carla
howdy
7:04 pm
hokie carla
2 c's left here
7:05 pm
penquis
listing for my last 6....
7:06 pm
hokie carla
of course my last one was spanish. must have a different meaning because there are a lot more spanish words not allowed.
7:07 pm
hokie carla
LOL, yes. means light colored in cigars
7:08 pm
penquis
done...two were plurals and one I thought I had entered...
7:09 pm
penquis
i had that spanish word, but not the next word (for which there is no definition)....
7:10 pm
penquis
i could never be on most of these game shows....i don't scream well....
7:10 pm
hokie carla
yeah, that one was just easier for me to find after listing due to the points
7:11 pm
penquis
had no trouble finding my last six....with the list, lol....
7:12 pm
penquis
well i am heading out...bye, carla....goodnight to everyone....
7:19 pm
hokie carla
good night pen!
7:28 pm
Shellbell_o-well
when you thought you entered that word: you prob did, but inadvertantly added a blank space at the end of the word-- Babble will say "nope!" to that
7:41 pm
Shellbell_o-well
FW! G'nite all